(WHTM) – Rep. Scott Perry texted then White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows requesting that attorney Jeff Clark be elevated to Attorney General ahead of January 6, according to messages shared during the Jan. 6 committee hearing on Thursday.
Clark was described during the hearing as an environmental attorney who told President Donald Trump he would investigate election fraud claims. Clark was said to have no experience with criminal investigations.
Rep. Adam Kinzinger, a member of the committee, said Clark “would do whatever the president wanted him to do, including overthrowing a free and fair democratic election.”
Three Trump-era Justice Department officials testified that Trump was fixated on voter fraud claims and insisted they pursue them despite being repeatedly told that none of the allegations had any merit.
The committee showed text messages between Congressman Perry (R-Dauphin) and Meadows from December 26, 2020, discussing replacing the Attorney General.
Scott Perry – Mark, just checking in as time continues to count down. 11 days to 1/6 and 25 days to inauguration. We gotta get going!
Scott Perry – Mark, you should Call Jeff. I just got off the phone with him and he explained to me why the principal deputy won’t work especially with the FBI. They will view it as not having the authority to enforce what needs to be done.
Mark Meadows – I got it. I think I understand. Le time work on the deputy position
Scott Perry – Roger. Just sent you something on Signal
Scott Perry – Just sent you an updated file
Scott Perry – Did you call Jeff Clark?
Congressman Kinzinger said Perry called then-deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue on Dec. 27. Donoghue said it was his understanding that President Donald Trump asked Perry to call him.
According to testimony during the hearing, Perry said he did not trust the FBI and that the then-Pennsylvania Secretary of State certified more votes than were actually cast. Donoghue said the report was investigated by the Western District of Pennsylvania U.S. Attorney and found to be false after Perry sent him the evidence.
Donoghue said information on a public-facing election website was not updated, leading to the confusion.
Donoghue said Perry referred Jeff Clark to the department, saying he thought he was great and was someone who could get in and do “something about this stuff.”
Cassidy Hutchinson, a former Special Assistant to the President, told the committee that Perry was among the congressmen who requested a pardon, something Perry has previously denied.
“Mr. Perry asked for a pardon,” said Hutchinson during her sworn deposition with the committee investigators. When asked by investigators whether Rep. Perry talked to her directly Hutchinson said “yes he did.”
Perry released a statement on the evening of June 23 that read, “I stand by my statement that I never sought a Presidential pardon for myself or other Members of Congress. At no time did I speak with Miss Hutchinson, a White House scheduler, nor any White House staff about a pardon for myself or any other Member of Congress – this never happened.”
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The hearing brought attention to a memorably turbulent stretch at the department as Trump in his final days in office sought to bend to his will a law enforcement agency that has long cherished its independence from the White House. The testimony was aimed at showing that Trump not only relied on outside advisers to press his false claims of election fraud but also tried to leverage the powers of federal executive branch agencies.
The scheme by Trump was a “brazen attempt” to use the Justice Department for his own political gain, said Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat and chairman of the Jan. 6 committee.
“Donald Trump didn’t just want the Justice Department to investigate,” Thompson said. “He wanted the Justice Department to help legitimate his lies, to basically call the election corrupt” and to appoint a special counsel. The Justice Department resisted each demand.
In a tweet, Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf said that Perry should resign:
.@January6thCmte findings are clear: Rep. Perry drove a brazen attempt to corrupt @TheJusticeDept. He fueled election lies for months leading up to the insurrection. That very night, he dismissed the will of PA voters. I encourage Rep. Perry to do the right thing and resign.
Daniels wants to unseat Perry.
“He lacks integrity, his promise to his constituents, his promise to the U.S., to honor the Constitution just is meaningless. And he really just should not be in leadership,” Daniels said.Gov. Tom Wolf
Testimony also centered on a tense Oval Office showdown on Jan. 3, 2021, in which Trump contemplated replacing him with Clark, a lower-level official, who wanted to champion Trump’s bogus election fraud claims. Donoghue and another senior Justice Department official, Steven Engel, warned Trump that there would be mass resignations at the department if Trump followed through with his plan. Only then did Trump relent.
Clark plead the fifth amendment and claimed executive privilege during a deposition with the committee.
“Today’s hearings really just highlighted how ineffective Scott Perry has been and how he’s used his energy to engage in these activities that he himself doesn’t feel are defensible,” said Shamaine Daniels, the Democratic nominee for the 10th congressional district.
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The Associated Press contributed to this report.